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How to take the bus in Florence and not get a fine

bus ticket machine on ATAF Firenze

bus ticket machine on ATAF Firenze

In case you think this article about “how to take the bus in Florence and not get a fine” is going to involve ways of getting out of paying for a ticket, you’re wrong. Lately there have been a lot of spot ticket controls on ATAF busses as they are cracking down on people who ride without paying; meanwhile every day I see tourists confused at how to buy and validate tickets.

To take the bus in Florence, you must buy a ticket in advance and validate it when you get on the bus. This is not as obvious or easy to do as it seems, so here are some instructions.

How to take the bus in Florence

Tabacchi sell bus tickets, cigarettes, stamps, and lottery.

Tabacchi sell bus tickets, cigarettes, stamps, and lottery.

First, buy a bus ticket.

WHERE? At any Tabacchi store (that has T on a black or blue background as per this photo), at news-stands that display the ATAF symbol, or at bars that display the ATAF symbol on the door. You’ll need to know how to ask for bus tickets: “biglietto autobus”.

WHICH TICKET? There are single trip and multi-trip options to save money. A single trip costs 1.20 euros and you can use the system for 90 minutes. There’s nothing stopping you from taking a bus, getting off, and getting on another bus (even in the return direction) using this single ticket. If you know you will be taking more than one trip, you save money with a 4-trip ticket (ask for “biglietto quattro corse”).

There is an electronic card for 10, 20, or 30 trips called “Carta Agile” that is very convenient. You can use this card even if you are more than one person. For example, a family of four needs to make 4 trips. By the Carta Agile and validate it once for each person, on each trip. See below on how to do that.

For tourists there are also multiple-day tickets. There are no childrens’ tickets, but kids under a meter high ride free when accompanied by an adult.

VALIDATE ON THE BUS: at the front and the back of the bus there is a ticket machine at which you must validate, or stamp, your ticket. There are three zones to the machine. The top is the electronic part for the carta Agile. Touch your card here and it beeps, and the display will show you the number of remaining trips. To validate for more than one person, touch it repeatedly at an interval of a few seconds (wait for the beep, then do it again). The middle zone of the machine is a mystery to us all. The bottom of the machine has the paper ticket stamper. Shove ticket in and wait for it to be properly grabbed and stamped. Check that you can see the stamp or writing on the ticket; if the machine doesn’t print properly and you get checked, you can get in trouble.

bus ticket validation machine in florence ATAF

bus ticket validation machine in florence ATAF

Plan your public transportation route in Florence

On the ATAF (Florence Bus) website there is a route planner, but it uses a rather old map service and doesn’t work too well. I suggest using Google Maps, which has integrated public transportation information at the street level. Zoom in to the area where you wish to arrive and look for the bus symbol. Click it and you get a list of busses that stop there. Click “directions”, insert your start point, select method “by public transportation” and you should get the best route.

Bus ticket controls in Florence

Ataf ticket campaign by Leader

Ataf ticket campaign by Leader

Since summer 2009, ATAF announced that there would be plenty of ticket controllers on board their busses as part of a crackdown on riders who don’t pay. Previously, checks were few and far between, and they were done by uniformed staff that you could see coming from a mile away. The campaign “No ticket, non parti” (no ticket, you don’t go – the verb is partire) is a play on martini ads with George Clooney that were big here in Italy (no martini, no party). ATAF’s print ads (created by Leader) and press releases announce that the “nonni” – grandparents or retired ATAF staff will be lending a hand by checking tickets in exchange for minimal benefits (a bus pass and access to the company canteen!).

Either they were lying, or the campaign has evolved. Lately I have had my ticket checked every single day at various times including morning rush hour. And it’s not by grandparents wearing purple shirts. It’s by the most unlikely-looking, rasta sporting, friendly young people in normal clothing. They pull out an ATAF ID tag and say “hello, tickets please”, and they say goodbye and thank everyone on the way out. They’re sweet, they look like university students (and probably are) and you’d never suspect them.

The moral of the story? Buy a bus ticket. It’s the right thing to do.

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  • LeeBZ

    Here in Bolzano/Boz the machines look different, but the work the same way (and have a similarly mysterious spot on the machine that no one can explain). However, on a few newer busses they actually have ticket machines as well – but not all the busses do, so it's best to get the ticket in advance, just like everywhere else in Italy!

  • CA

    Thanks for your kind notes. Question of Carta Agile on transfering… When I transfer from a bus to another I should validate my bus card again or can ride a bus without a touch again? Of course in an hour. ^^

  • http://arts.allthingstuscany.com/ Tuscany Arts

    Hi CA. If you're within the 90 minute limit of the ticket, do NOT re-validate with your carta agile. You can transfer to as many busses as you like within that time period.
    thanks for asking!
    Alexandra

  • Brookstar_

    I received an on-the-spot fine in 2002 in Florence for not having a ticket whilst riding the bus. I did not pay this fine. I also did not receive any further notice to my home address in Australia regarding the fine. I am now wishing to return to Italy for a holiday but am worried that somehow the authorities will catch up with me, even though it was some 8 years ago, and I didnt actually receive any letter of notice following the on-the-spot fine. Does anybody have any advice as to what i should do about this. I'd like to find out how to pay this fine, but don't even know where to start…..

  • http://www.arttrav.com arttrav

    That is very honest of you! I would say don't worry, just come back to Italy. I doubt that ataf (bus co) has a computer at all, let alone one connected to immigration's! If you wish, you could try bringing the fine to the ataf office at Santa Maria novella to pay it, which will surely provoke riotous laughter on part of employees. If you do that pls let me come with you as i will want to blog about it! Write to Alexandra info at arttrav dot com.

  • Brookstar_

    Thanks 4 your reply! I know I sound ludicrous, worring over something that happened so long ago! I Just don't want to turn up at the airport and risk get arrested (on my honeymoon)! I would never hear the end of it!!

    I don't have a copy of the actual fine itself. The on-the-spot fine has since been destroyed. Since then, we did not receive any formal notice or anything further in the mail at home.

    From what I understand, they are supposed to send you a formal notice of the fine within 12 months time via registered post.This I definitely did not receive. All we were given was the ticket from the inspectors book.

    Do you think I can i safely assume ATAF will have no record of me on their system since the ticket does not even appear to have been written up formally?

    Thanking you in advance for your reply – I really appreciate it!!

  • http://www.arttrav.com arttrav

    Dear Brookstar

    Really, I am quite sure that ataf won't have you in their computer. Or if

    they do, they'd have to catch you first. This country lacks integrated

    computer systems (like, health integrated with immigration or driving

    licenses). Furthermore, ATAF as a company has changed hands just this year

    so it's even more unlikely that they are going to find a way to go after old

    fines.

    Congrats on your honeymoon in Tuscany! Let me know if I can help you with

    any ideas for your plan. Arttrav has a facebook fan page (

    facebook.com/arttravcom – check out the right sidebar on this page) so if

    you're on fb join us there where we can continue to converse!

    Considering your current public transportation woes, i'm going to write a

    post for you about how not to get a speeding ticket next… seriously! it's

    a problem…

    Best regards

    Alexandra

    ps too bad you don't have the fine though; i was already salivating over the

    blog post i'd get to write out of this… ;-)

  • Brookstar_

    Dear Alexandra,

    Thanks again for all of your advice on this – I think I am just going to go to Italy now and just not worry about it!!

    As far as planning the honeymoon goes, it would be great to converse further with you about this. I have a rough plan but your local knowledge would be invaluable!! Do you have an email adress I can get you on as I dont really want to put too much information on this blog or facebook.

    Best Regards

    Brook

  • http://www.arttrav.com arttrav

    Hi B

    sure, you can email me directly at info @ arttrav .com

    I do encourage you to get help from facebook groups or forums online though

    - you don't have to put your exact dates or personal information. Often the

    crowd knows best, while my advice tends to be quite personal and

    opinion-based. In any advice you ask, to me or others, be sure to state your

    interests (ie I like hiking or I like museums) and the season in which

    you're traveling for the most tailored advice.

    Cheers

    AMK

  • margalit fishler

    helo
    1)I need help I am in an electric wheelchair i need a van with a lift or a ramp to take me from the florence airport to hotel golden tower in the city where can i find one
    2}or if not is there is a bus from the airport that can take me from the airport to the city
    3}i can NOT FOLD my electric wheelchair
    best regards
    margalit fishler fishler10@walla.com

  • http://www.arttrav.com arttrav

    Hi Margalit
    While some of Florence’s busses are equipped with lifts, I would not count
    on every bus having one, especially the airport bus. Also, busses tend to be
    very crowded so it might be hard to navigate them.

    I just looked up your hotel which looks VERY nice and it’s perfectly located
    so that you should never need to take a bus, and will be able to get around
    the center well in your electric wheelchair. Great choice! Being a 5 star
    hotel, I would contact them and ask them to arrange for a compatible van to
    pick you up at the airport. Also of course make sure you confirm directly
    with them that your room will be accessible.

    If you need some extra help during your stay, or if you are interested in
    traveling outside of Florence at all, there’s a specialized travel agency
    that might be able to help you: http://www.accessibleitaly.com

    Hope that helps!
    Best regards
    Alexandra

  • Mariquita2011

    Today I boarded the bus. I did not validate my bus ticket because I was
    not sure if an inspector will show up. When suddenly an inspector
    boarded the bus, I went to validate my ticket right away and he saw me
    saying that I validated my ticket too late saying that I had the
    intention of not validating it so he gave me a ticket and wanted a
    document (no document=police station). So I showed a photocopy of my
    passport and he wrote my name, birthdate and passport numbers. But I
    gave a bogus address here in Florence. I’ve been in Florence as a
    student for almost 4 years. What Irony! The thing is, I am leaving the
    country in a week, and I was wondering if I could get away with it? My
    concern is that if I don’t pay the fine, they might put my name in the
    European Union Database or something, so that the next time I ever enter
    the EU, I might be asked at the airport to pay a fine or get whisked
    away by the police!!! I am also afraid that they might find my address
    in my home country, and mail a threatening letter… Oh what should I
    do???

  • http://www.arttrav.com arttrav

    If you’ve been a student here for 4 years, you know the rules. IMO, you should do the honest thing and pay the fine. We all pay to ride the bus, and the company needs our fees to keep running. It should not be out of fear of being banned from the EU that you pay the fine, though this may happen, but out of honesty and civic duty. If you were in your home country, would you try to cheat your way out of paying anything?

  • Jvhdalahi

    Hi, we are students from england and we recieved a fine this summer when boarding a crowded bus in florence without a ticket. We thought we could pay for the ticket on the bus but could not get through the crowd to the driver. We were given a 50euros fine on the bus but contested the fine. 110 days later(even though we were told it would be 60days) we have recieved a follow up fine of 95euros each which we cannot afford to pay. The letter we recieved is in italian which we cannot read or make any sense to make an appeal for our unfair treatment. Is there any advice you can give us? If we do not pay the fine what is likely to be the follow up?

    johnny and kitty

  • http://www.arttrav.com arttrav

    Hi Johnny and Kitty
    I am really not sure what to suggest. I’m sorry this happened to you during your stay in Florence. It is everyone’s responsibility to be informed about how the bus system works (that’s why i have the post – to help) and you are RIGHT that you can buy the ticket on the bus for a premium (2 euros). I think contesting or negotiating down the fine would be the solution, but I am not sure how to do it. So, I posted your question on the ataf fan page and am waiting for an answer. Here is the link to where i posted it ( http://www.facebook.com/firenzeataf/posts/273464269354644). If they write back i’ll translate their answer for you here.
    Alexandra

  • Johnny and Kitty

    Thankyou for you help Alexandra! I have seen you post on the ataf facebook fan page and seen their reply, i have tried to translate their reply online but cant really make much sense of what they said! If you could let me know that would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks again

  • http://www.arttrav.com arttrav

    Here is the answer from ATAF
    Allora, il discorso è questo: Quando c’è un ricorso, nel caso venga respinto, la sanzione può essere aumentata fino a un massimo di 240 euro e ciò rientra nella normativa vigente (L.R. n° 42/1998 e successive modifiche).
    L’affollamento della vettura non giustifica la mancata obliterazione del titolo in quanto le violazioni vengono contestate anche in considerazione di questo elemento contingente: se il controllo a bordo è stato possibile nella fattispecie, era evidentemente possibile anche obliterare il biglietto, sebbene questa operazione debba implicare un po’ di buona volontà, in caso di particolare affollamento del mezzo.

    Translated as: Okay, here’s the issue. When there is a contestation of the fine, if it’s rejected, the fine can be raised further until a maximum of 240 euros (this is according to the law… cited above).
    The vehicle being crowded does not justify a lack of stamping one’s ticket. We take into account when there is a contestation of the fine the fact that if it was humanly possible for the ticket controllers to work their way around the bus to do the control, obviously it was possible (ie not so crowded) also to stamp the ticket, even if this could be difficult if the bus is crowded.

    So there you have it. A non-answer, but an answer that essentially means you should pay up or keep receiving fines that will just get higher with time.
    On the other hand, i cannot tell you what will happen if you don’t pay. As
    far as I know, There is no way for them to connect this fine to your
    passport and block your entry to the country… :)

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